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Poll Question: Should the Bass Coast Shire outlaw the use of plastic bags in our retail stores - [Add New Comment] |
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| Posted by: Victor Laszlo on 14/02/2010 |
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John, don't stay angry! Do the right thing and reply to this outrageous person with an open letter to the editor! Such a nonsense does normally not deserve a reply, but unfortunately we are not living anymore in 'normal' times here! People, who defend the current anti-social behaviour, which is happening not only during 'schoolies' and the 'silly season' should be 'brought to justice'. And please, stay away from simple answers, like: 'Close the bridge'! A big part of the problem lies within the 'community' of the Shire / Phillip Island. Anti-social behaviour is not being 'imported' to the island by tourists, it is embedded in this 'community'. Phillip Island, unfortunately, was (is?) the 'social dump' of Melbourne. John, help to change this! Reply - and don't opt for 'short cuts' or 'quick fixes'!  |
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| Reply: Posted by: john, marxist john on 14/02/2010 |
play it again sam,,,,,I got a plane to catch......she aint gunna suk me into an answer...she can pull her boot lid shut and sleep in her public space |
| Reply: Posted by: Sam on 14/02/2010 |
| That's all I needed to know! You are a waste of time! |
| Posted by: rosemary on 14/02/2010 |
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| just back from viisting Timboon - a neat tidy little town and nobody with any plastic supermarket bags in their hands in the shopping centre |
| Posted by: Christine on 10/02/2010 |
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| It's a myth that it's only a third world problem. Take a look at the Are You Ready web site. Here's a couple of quotes:
Despite our reduction in plastic bag use, Australians still use over 4 billion plastic check-out bags a year. All of them are made from non-renewable fossil fuels.
Plastic check-out bags are not free. A 2002 Sunday Telegraph article said that industry figures showed that $100 million a year was being added to grocery bills to pay for the plastic bags that we get at the check-out.
If you think your use of plastic singlet bags is OK please think again!! |
| Posted by: suprised on 10/02/2010 |
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| I can't believe how many people are saying NO! |
| Reply: Posted by: KOALA2 on 14/02/2010 |
 YA CARNT BELIEVE EM!!! THEY AVENT CHANGED!!!! I AVEN'T BEEN ABLE TA BELIVE EM SINCE 1788!!!! THEY SHOOD BE GIVEN A PLASTIC BAG AT BIRTH TO PULL OVA THEIR EADS I RECKON - QUITE A LOT OF EM ANY WAY!!! |
| Posted by: Neil on 10/02/2010 |
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| I believe they're fine if you accept only what you can use along with re-usable bags as well... being responsible in the way we use/dispose of them, is all important.
It's a case of using freebie bags or needing to buy them for use, any difference??
I believe we are primarily discussing Aussie use as the third world is altogether another issue and way beyond our control.
Plastic bags can only be seen as the tip of the iceberg, IE. plastics are in major use in all areas of our modern society. Can't be fully discontinued but carefully managed...be responsible eh? |
| Posted by: Christine on 9/02/2010 |
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| A quick search of Google images under Plastic bag rubbish will quickly convince you of the evils of the plastic singlet bag. There is no such thing as a biodegradable plastic bag. There are now bags made from plant fibre, such as rice husks, that do biodegrade, and are available at some checkouts at Coles in Cowes. I think they cost about 25cents which is not much on a grocery bill, and you can keep using them for a while. Just don't get them wet! We are lucky in Australia because we have garbage collection, but in many poorer countries the plastic trash just gets left in the street and ends up in rivers and the ocean. There's an enormous 'garbage patch' in the Pacific Ocean, off the shipping lanes, that took the boatload that discovered it two weeks to steam through. It consists of various sized bits of broken down plastic floating about a metre under the water, so it doesn't show up in satellite photos, but is about 6 metres thick under the surface. That's where the rubbish bags end up that don't go to landfill. Although I beleive there's another 'giant garbage patch' in the Atlantic too. The US EPA says between five hundred billion and one trillion plastic bags are produced in the world each year. That's a hell of a lot of space taken up by used plastic bags. I use them about twice a year. The rest of the time it's calico or other reusable bags. It's just not that hard. |
| Reply: Posted by: rosemary on 9/02/2010 |
| we have got lazy - when I was a kid it was brown paper bags and Mum had a cane shopping basket and our groceries where delivered in cardboard boxes |
| Reply: Posted by: Stanley on 10/02/2010 |
| Thank you for doining that christine.
i hope it helps turn the vote around
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| Reply: Posted by: concerned on 10/02/2010 |
| Wow, I just googled "Plastic bags in ocean" and couldn't believe the photos and information that came up. Everyone should do this. It's shocking. Hopefully it will change some of the minds of people who are saying NO to this weeks question about getting rid of plastic bags on Phillip Island. |
| Reply: Posted by: Neil on 13/02/2010 |
| Yes Rosemary, it would be good if we could go back to the old ways but it's not likely to now. I well remember the fight in Gippsland to retain brown paper bag use, manufactured by the local APM...fight lost by Supermarket pressure! And can you imagine hordes of boxes stacked around our supermarkets for our use...yes, I remember it too. |
| Posted by: KOALA2 on 8/02/2010 |
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Keep ORL ya plastic wrappin for a month - food an evrythin else too! How much plastic ya reckon? Ow mutch of watcha buy do uze lot really need anyway? Yus buy too mutch, yus waste too mutch and uze are tha most inafficient animools God evas put on that planet! Ya need ta do a reool big retink you lot!!!  |
| Posted by: Luke on 8/02/2010 |
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| This 'let's get rid of plastic shopping bags' is a load of rubbish (pardon the pun)lol. In case anyone hasn't noticed, nearly everything we buy in the way of food is wrapped in plastic or bagged in plastic, so to be environmentally conscience in wanting to get rid of plastic shopping bags, would probably make .0000000000000000000000000001% of difference ! Anyway, what's wrong with supermarket company's using and handing out biodegradable plastic bags? Or is it they won't because they wouldn't make money on those "so called" environmentally freindly green and blue bags, bags that in actual (scientific) fact will take thousands of years to break down. So, leave our PLASTIC shopping bags alone...unless company's are prepared to use biodegradable ones ! |
| Reply: Posted by: Luke on 8/02/2010 |
| Forgot to add. Councils have too much say over us all now, so my answer to the OP's original question is NO !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 8/02/2010 |
| I thought you may have biodegraded!!!!! |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 8/02/2010 |
| Unfortunately Luke people , even though it is often a minority, continually show they are incapable of making decisions or living by simple rules for their good and the good of others. We therefore need Councils and Governments to make and enforce for the community good! Unfortunate but realistic! |
| Posted by: rosemary on 8/02/2010 |
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| depending on the life of the bag or how its made - I dont have a problem with biodegrable ones |
| Reply: Posted by: Luke on 8/02/2010 |
| Bio plastic bags , I believe, break down within 6 months whereas the green bags will take 10,000 years or more and that's according to scientific findings from news stories on the subject. |
| Reply: Posted by: john on 8/02/2010 |
| hi honey,,I'm home |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 8/02/2010 |
| I thought you may have biodegraded too John!!! You didn,t sprout another head did you??? |
| Reply: Posted by: john on 8/02/2010 |
| Tazzie people very much like Island people. Friendly aND SOME OF THE WOMEN NOW WEAR MAKE UP [ON 1 OF THEIR FACES] |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 8/02/2010 |
| Just spoke to my sister on the phone Johm! Told her what you said and her response was she would love to meet you when next your in Tassie and give you some eye make-up. Oh - she lives in Hobart AND drives a truck!!!! |
| Reply: Posted by: john on 9/02/2010 |
| wot, i really mean this...tazzmanians are like people from p.i.. every says hi, smiles and luvs a chat. mite be 2nd best place in world to live..and some were good eye candy too [bloody big bridge but] |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 9/02/2010 |
| Did you get caught in a traffic jam on the bridge? We did once - it said to avoid the bridge because of heavy traffic one afternoon at abut 4.30. We were on the bridge and did a car count - got 26 all up! No need to have any blockades over there and yes ..... it's a great place ... AT THE MOMENT but the Northern Monsters are starting to wake up and are buying in John!!! |
| Reply: Posted by: john[the fascist] on 10/02/2010 |
| well my new name is now "fascist john" according to one contributer in this weeks Advertiser. Well worth a read of her views on last page of lettrers to the editor. |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 14/02/2010 |
| That's it!!! Paint a swastika on each door and the boot of the Hyandi, get a photo of Musolini on each door of the Cruz and park em both at Newhaven . That should slow em down - especially if they are as intelligent as the Advertiser contributer!!! |
| Reply: Posted by: john on 14/02/2010 |
| she did make me a bit angry |
| Reply: Posted by: Victor Laszlo on 14/02/2010 |
| John, don't stay angry! Do the right thing and reply to this outrageous person with an open letter to the editor! Such a nonsense does normally not deserve a reply, but unfortunately we are not living anymore in 'normal' times here! People, who defend the current anti-social behaviour, which is happening not only during 'schoolies' and the 'silly season' should be 'brought to justice'. And please, stay away from simple answers, like: 'Close the bridge'! A big part of the problem lies within the 'community' of the Shire / Phillip Island. Anti-social behaviour is not being 'imported' to the island by tourists, it is embedded in this 'community'. Phillip Island, unfortunately, was (is?) the 'social dump' of Melbourne. John, help to change this! Reply - and don't opt for 'short cuts' or 'quick fixes'! |
| Posted by: Kate on 8/02/2010 |
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| Biodegradable 'plastic' bags are a lot more environmentally friendly than so-called 'green bags' in the long run! |
| Reply: Posted by: THINKING? on 9/02/2010 |
| Everything now has to be "ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY"! The environment will very soon, if not NOW have too many "friends" with which to cope! I reckon it's a catch phrase gone wrong actually! |
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