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Poll Question: Should medicare provide more than 12 sessions per year for people who need to see psychologists - [Add New Comment] |
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| Posted by: Concerned on 30/07/2010 |
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| I wonder if the community have differing views of different situations and people. Perhaps there is little sympathy for the drug stuffed physcotics who may have caused their own downfall.For those born to a life of depression and other mental illnesses through no fault of their own they are entitled to have have proper and free or low cost treatment . For those unable to cope in society they should not be thrown on the streets and accomodation plus treatment should be provided.
There I feel better now |
| Reply: Posted by: john on 30/07/2010 |
Endogenous depression [depression from within, or without any cause] is the big one. comes with terms of Bipolar, Chemical Imbalance, etc. Many great achievers, comedians, politicians, inventors have suffered, because it is often accompanied by varying levels of genius, arising in times of mental peace. Yes, others bring about their own downfall by drug/alcohol use, but what caused that behaviour in the first place ? Mental health is the problem of todays life,and unfortunately is on the increase.  |
| Reply: Posted by: Christine on 30/07/2010 |
| Many people who dabble in substance abuse have a story - ADHD, abuse, clinical depression, learning disability. They need the high to escape the pain. Unfortunately sometimes the effect of the drug can be a disastrous low which results in flashbacks, panic attacks, other physical and psychological problems long-term. These people need just as much help as those whose depression is brain chemistry related. There's an old saying about children: the less a child deserves love the more they need it. It applies to people with mental illness too. |
| Reply: Posted by: cow on 30/07/2010 |
| I agree Christine, if someone smokes and ends up ill because of the smoking, should we refuse treatment???? what has made that person be in the position of needing to smoke/drink/use drugs. People have stories and when they try and get off drugs/drink, thats when all the other history comes out. Drugs and alcohol and tobacco are all self medicative ways for people to escape the pain and suffering of their earlier years. Thats why there should be nop limit with regards to the amount of help people should be able to recieve. This in turn keeps people and parents functioning members of society. |
| Reply: Posted by: concerned on 31/07/2010 |
| My concern is when the public purse is not deep enough to fund every wish list then the ones who cannot help themselves should come first. A large part of drug taking has little to do with all the latest buzz words around child development but adults who are bored or stupid enough to experiment with drugs. There are many out there who function in daily employment but abuse drugs in their party time. Its the thing to do you know. |
| Posted by: Christine on 29/07/2010 |
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| I am amazed at how little interest this poll has generated, given that our Australian of the Year works in mental health and has been pushing funding and the issues for all he is worth. Perhaps it's all pushed under the carpet on Phillip Island? No one wants to know about it. There's no doubt plenty of mental health problems out there. Don't people seek treatment? Have they given up? |
| Reply: Posted by: rosemary on 29/07/2010 |
| To be honest I believe whether we like it or not many are not comfortable to "out " themselves or even admit to "mental health " problems ( present or in the past) due to the very unfair stigma when dealing with mental health................. physical, obvious health issues seem to be more acceptable than something which is quite often a chemical (therefore physical ) inbalance.................... but there you are ..........we are a very intolerate, immature society still ..............some may be just plain scared of those that suffer - just my own personal observations living in a stressful society |
| Reply: Posted by: cow on 29/07/2010 |
I agree that it is a shame of the lack of comments etc. I am shocked too. bit sad that we as a society dont accept mental health as an important issue that society as a whole needs to recognise and accept. There is a fine line between so called "normal" people and people with "mental health" problems..... |
| Reply: Posted by: its not me on 29/07/2010 |
| ok , I have mental problems |
| Reply: Posted by: WOT on 29/07/2010 |
| I think you have an identity crisis John!
As for Mental Health Issues it is certainly an area which still carries stigma and lack of understanding and it certainly should be funded under Medicare with equal emphasis. However it appears there is a lot more required within this area of Health and there are broad ranging issues associated with the area. If you have been listening to our Politicians attempting to gain our votes, (for what it's worth), it does however appear that Mental Health Issues are receiving a long overdue increased emphasis, although I believe there is a lot of ground to be made up! |
| Reply: Posted by: got me on 29/07/2010 |
| but Wot, I said it wasnt me. But this is a serious topic and does need the full attention of federal/state govts |
| Reply: Posted by: Goose on 29/07/2010 |
| I don't believe that there is a lack of interest in this poll, I think that the lack of replies stems from a lack of Understanding in the Broader Community. A short time ago (within the last 5 years) a friend tried to take his life when he felt that life had become too Hard and that some things were becoming to great a strain for him to handle, I could not Understand this as I thought that his Life was on track and all was good with him and his Family (a thought shared by his wife). Unfortunately a Chemical Imbalance or a Distorted View made him believe that all was not good in his World and he attempted the worst possible course of action, Fortunately with therapy he has been able to turn his life around and now appears to be on stable ground. Perhaps if we could all come to Understand why some People Perceive thing the way they do then we could all show Greater Compassion. |
| Posted by: rosemary on 28/07/2010 |
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| probably depends on whether its a chronic or acute problem .................... the government needs to spend some serious money on mental health and at the moment it isnt enough |
| Posted by: Islander on 26/07/2010 |
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| Why, do you think I need more help? What have you heard? |
| Reply: Posted by: its not me on 27/07/2010 |
| paranoia ? |
| Reply: Posted by: its not me on 28/07/2010 |
| I think you can see 'HELP' for help ! |
| Reply: Posted by: help on 28/07/2010 |
dont look at me for help - now I'm getting paranoid!!! |
| Posted by: Surfsidegal on 26/07/2010 |
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| There is no limit to physical ailments so why should there be limits for emotional or mental ailments is my question. They are both important to a persons wellbeing. having said that I am fortunate not to have been in need of the latter as yet. |
| Posted by: Christine on 26/07/2010 |
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| Psychiatrists are funded. They are able to give drugs. Psychologists do therapy. One visit per month is simply not enough if you are fighting depression, chronic gambling, post traumatic stress disorder, etc, etc. It should be at least 24 per year. That said, we are seriously short of both sorts of psychs - certainly in Gippsland - so I'm not sure how the extra case load would be handled. |
| Reply: Posted by: help on 27/07/2010 |
Psychiatrist are not fully funded, there is a gap to pay approx. $80 out of pocket! I agree that 1 session is not enough for chronic mental health issues. and if we can keep people productive and a part of the community and paying taxes, then everyone benefits. This also applies to people with chronic diseaes, there must be free health care for all, especially with chronic mental and physical conditions. 12 sessions with a psychologist is not enough if you are battling chronic depression, PTSD, anxiety etc. It is enough for some people that need short term help, but there has to be a better way, as doctors and admissions cost more money for the system in the long term, so help people acutly not with a bandaid. and that goes for chronic medical conditions too. saty safe and healthy. |
| Posted by: john on 26/07/2010 |
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if they genuinely need more help, there should be no limit, psychiatrists too |
| Reply: Posted by: Hmmm on 26/07/2010 |
| I agree, why is there a limit? |
| Posted by: Goose on 26/07/2010 |
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| I honestly have no idea about this because I have had no dealings with Psychologists. What is the average time between visits for most Patients? |
| Reply: Posted by: help on 27/07/2010 |
| depends on what the circumstances are that the person who is seeing the psychologist is for. Some need to see them weekly, some fortnightly, and some clients will need to see the psychologist for only a short period of time and some need ongoing help, assistance and support, which could mean years of weekly sessions. Hope this helps goose |
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